WTRS Executive Interview
Interview with Yoram Solomon, Senior Director Marketing, Industry and Standards, for Mobile Connectivity Solutions Group in Texas Instruments.
June 1, 2006
1.
Can you tell us a bit about your background?
My official position right now is as the Senior Director for
Strategic Marketing, Industry and Standards, for Mobile
Connectivity Solutions Group in Texas Instruments. A bit about
my own personal background, I moved from Israel eight years ago
after having a startup in Israel in the VoIP space. I moved to
silicon Valley. That is where my wireless career started. I
joined a little wireless company called Voyager Technologies
that was building probably the first components in Bluetooth. We
sold this company after about a year and a half to a public
company called PCTel. I worked in PCTel, still in Silicon
Valley, for about two years as the vice president and general
manager of the advanced communications business unit. Left them
to join Texas Instruments, initially in wireless LAN. After a
while I became the general manager of the consumer electronics
connectivity business unit where I was responsible for the 1394,
USB, and even the initial efforts in Ultrawideband. That was
until about a year ago when I moved to the biggest business in
Texas Instruments, which is wireless terminals business unit
that builds components into wireless cellular handsets. And this
is the business that today at TI is a 4.5 billion a year
business for us, at least in 2005. Personally, I have an
engineering degree, a law degree from Israel, an MBA from the
university of Colorado, as well as some strategic marketing
programs at Stanford. I am on the board of the Bluetooth SIG
Marketing Committee, on the board of the WiFi Alliance, WiMedia,
and obviously on the board of the
Mobile DTV Alliance. I am also the president and chairman of
the board there, and the vice chair of TIA's TR47.2. Also I am a
mission pilot in the Civil Air Patrol Auxiliary of the U.S.
Air force. And I still sleep eight hours a night.
2. What is the Mobile DTV Alliance?
Several things on that. One is that I started talking to a few
of the companies that became board members in November of last
year. And so I gathered a group of six companies. They included,
obviously, TI, Intel, Nokia, Motorola, Microsoft, and Modeo. I
talked to them about the importance of creating an alliance that
supports DVB-H. In front of us, what we saw is Qualcomm with a
proprietary specification MediaFLO (or forward link only) with a
very concerted and organized effort to drive this. On the other
hand there is a huge group with more than a hundred companies
that support DVB-H, and yet are not organized enough to provide
interoperable products and to provide some marketing background
on DVB-H here in the U.S. So we got together and decided to
launch this alliance. The alliance was formed in January of
2006, officially. And the six founders are the six board
members: TI, Intel, Nokia, Motorola, Microsoft, and Modeo. Last
week we had 27 members including Samsung and Sony Ericsson, but
I know that there are more joining on a daily basis at this
point. They are all available on our web site which is
mdtvalliance.org.
3. How do you differ from the DVB Project with its DVB-H standard?
The DVB project and the DVB-H standard which was created by the
DVB project is now standardized through ETSI and eventually
through the TIA (telecommunications industry association) here
in the U.S. under the committee called TR47, are all
standardization organizations. or even specifications
organizations. The relationship between the Mobile DTV Alliance
to the DVB project is similar to the relationship between the
WiFi Alliance and the IEEE. IEEE creates standards, and the WiFi
Alliance assures interoperability.
The alliance is really focused on the U.S. market. The reason
for that is because the U.S. market has its own specific
challenges, whether through spectrum, whether through the way
the operators work here in the U.S., the way that they own
spectrum here in the U.S. compared to Europe and other places in
the world, and how the business models work here in the U.S.
compared to other places in the world. Just for an example of
the cellular side, here in the U.S. is probably the only place I
know on this earth where you pay for calls that you get, not
only for calls that you place. Other places in the world you
only pay for calls that you place. There is no reason to
penalize you for calls that you get, for instance people dialing
the wrong number. So there are unique challenges here in the
U.S. and therefore we thought that it was really important that
we address the U.S. market initially. Eventually we are going to
branch out to other countries where such organizations do not
exist; probably not to a place like Japan or Europe or Korea,
where they do have their own good organizations that address
similar things.
So what is it we are doing? We are doing several things. One is
education and marketing. Education includes the government, it
includes consumers, it includes the handset manufacturers, and
it includes the operators. We need to educate them on DVB-H
being an open standard, mobile TV as a business model. There are
a lot of very interesting models that just talking to the
operators, showing them the interesting things they can do with
mobile TV enabled on their phones, you can see that some of them
didn't think of that before. The second aspect, which is more
tactical but equally important, is assuring interoperability.
Now in order to assure interoperability, you have to do several
things. If we go back to the first days of 802.11b, which is
when wireless local area networking really started taking off,
the first products claimed compliance with 802.11b. They did not
claim any interoperability, the WiFi Alliance did not exist and
when we formed the WiFi Alliance it was called WECA. Products
claimed compatibility with the 802.11b standard, yet they were
not interoperable with one another. Why did that happen? for two
reasons. One is that there is more beyond 802.11b. There are all
kinds of things that need to be standardized, or at least
harmonized, from all the different manufacturers. But even
within the 802.11b, there are a lot of options you need to
choose from, draw a line in the sand, and claim that this is
what you are going to have to support in order to claim
interoperability with 802.11 standard. Taking that to the
MobileDTV Alliance, we decided that DVB- H only addresses the
air interface, or the physical layer, if you will. What about
digital rights management? What about media players? What about
user interfaces? electronic program guides? What is the
interface to which you drive the content? All this needs to be
defined. It is important to understand that this organization is
not planning on creating standards or specifications. It is our
intent to just reference standards and specifications and say,
for example, digital rights management we are going to chose
this, for a media player we are going to choose that. DVB-H has
a lot of options and we need to specify which options will be
required and tested for interoperability between vendors. So in
a sense its very similar to what the WiFi Alliance has done.
This tool we are creating is not really a specification. We call
it a reference set. This reference set defines the entire
broadcast network. >From the point at which content gets
introduced, but not the content itself, all the way through
towers and transmitters and handsets, and silicon and software
that go on the handsets.
4. What are the top applications adopting Mobile DTV today?
What are the value propositions to the End User and the OEM?
#1 is watching TV on mobile devices. If I go a level deeper,
there are different types of content and different types of
viewing habits. There are different ways to deliver mobile TV
down to handsets. The two major ones are 1. Unicast, using the
cellular infrastructure right now which is 1:1, and then there
is broadcast, which is what mobile TV is about and DVB-H is
about. I know that a lot of people are asking me, what is the
difference? are they going to cannibalize each other? are they
competing? and in fact I don't think that they are competing
because this goes back to the way we use content. If you think
about the content today, there is a lot of real- time, live
content, such as CNBC, CNN, and ESPN. Breaking news, financial
news, sports news. Those are the type of things that fall in the
category that you need to get this now. Ten minutes later its
possibly too late. A day later, it has absolutely no relevance.
This is what you need to get through broadcast networks. You
need to get it real-time. What's the value of the stock tickers
you see on CNBC, if they are yesterday's stock tickers? There is
no value in them. On the other hand, you have content that's
more on-demand. On-demand can be clips from Saturday Night Live,
or The Apprentice, or other things. And we can argue whether
people are actually going to watch TV for 16 minutes on a mobile
phone. I don't think they are. I think that you need to
customize this content to have 2-10 minute clips. This is what
you are going to watch, you are not going to watch more than
that. But at the end of the day, those are two different ways of
viewing content. And while I'm going to want to watch something
that is more like a video clip, as I mentioned before, when I am
ready to watch them, the real live content, on the other hand, I
want to watch what's available now. To watch what's available
now, real live, I need broadcast. To select content, I need
Unicast and on-demand. Those are actually complementary, as you
can see. Not only that, but this is where 1+1=3. Because you are
going to take the broadcast content and you are going to plug
advertisements and have the ability to chose something that is
available off-line, or available through Unicast. You are going
to click through to the ad and all of a sudden you go to
Unicast, and vice versa.
One of the important things for OEMs is that this is a very
small device that adds to the phone in an incremental way. This
is where, for example, a component from Texas Instruments really
plays well. The overall solution size is less than 100 mm
square, its less than $10 for the overall solution. Its not a
big burden, and it takes a lot of the headache off of them, and
that is something that is important for the OEM. This is exactly
the same product that you would use in a phone, or a PC, or the
back side of the headrests in a car, so that people can see in
the back seat. It doesn't have to have an uplink associated with
it, much like a satellite radio. The only thing is that this is
most likely, in most cases, at least here in the U.S., is going
to be a pay-for service, so its not going to be free. There are
areas in the world, like Japan, right now, where this is going
to be a free service. If it is a free service, you definitely
don't need any uplink. Here in the U.S., they intend to charge
money for it and you need to be able to enable the service. How
do you enable the service? There are 3 ways that come to mind.
One of them is with the cellular back-end. So through the
cellular network, you actually get this enabled. The second is
through addressable activation, which is by the way, the way
satellite radios work. When they activate it, your radio has to
be on and over one channel they are going to transmit an
activation signal with the device that you have. For that you
don't need a phone. That's a one-way device, just a receiver.
Your receiver receives that activation message and from that
point on its going to be activated for a set period of time. The
third way is simply by using a code. Your device is actually
disabled, and the only way to activate it for a set period of
time would be entering a code through a user interface, not
down linked from the network, and you are going to have to call
or go on the web to get that code. So for us the device doesn't
have to be a phone. Mobile TV is going to show up, not only on
phones.
Interestingly enough, one of the areas that DVB-H is going to go
into is not necessarily just handsets but also PCs. And this is
my guess of why Intel found it interesting enough to participate
in, and we hear it from them every now and then. I think it was
in The Innovators Solution, by Clayton Christensen, in which he
addresses the Research in Motion, or RIM, Blackberry. He said
that the reason that it succeeded so well is because it lets you
use minutes that you don not have any other use for. When you
are waiting for something and you have got 2, 3 minutes to burn.
Not an hour, 2,3, minutes, what do you do? You reach for your
blackberry, pull it out, type in your password, and then you
check email and maybe respond to a few emails. That's what DVB-H
is. same thing. Its a way to make use of minutes, of down
minutes that you have.
5.
Are you seeing different levels of interest in Mobile DTV by
geographic region?
I am seeing not different levels of interest, but different ways
of deploying this. One of things that is relatively consistent
throughout the world, but not everywhere, is the DVB-H standard
being an open standard. Which means that you have a level
playing field. anybody can play, true competition, extract the
cost out of it. You have to really compete on benefits and being
cost-effective, rather than a closed environment where you have
just one provider of a certain piece of the value chain
commoditizing anybody else, except themselves. So I see a lot of
global support for DVB-H. There are certain geographical areas,
like Japan that supported ISDVB, and Korea that went with DMB,
but the one standard that is the most accepted right now in the
world is DVB-H.
Different levels of interest in the mobile DVB-H space in
general? I think that the U.S. might be a little behind the
curve right now, with the operators still trying to figure this
one out. Trying to understand how they are going to make money,
although its relatively easy to understand that they will. Italy
was probably the first place that they launched the DVB-H
service with one of the operators there.
I think that here in the U.S. they are still in the education
mode right now. Verizon did make an announcement that they are
going to adopt Mobile DTV. One thing about the U.S. is that they
get it, they don't get it, but once one of them decides to do
this, they all of a sudden get that they need to do that, they
don't get why. And then all of a sudden everybody plays catch-up.
Where they are right now is that they are starting to get it.
Probably more important is that they are seeing that there is
going to be competition in here and they are starting to think
immediately, ok, how do I out-perform them. When we talk about
Modeo and Highwire, there is an interesting point here in the
model that the operators are using that is somewhat different
here in the US and is associated with the fact that they are not
certain about mobile DTV yet. What they are doing is they are
outsourcing the network, the infrastructure, which has not been
done like this before, and not a lot of carriers or operators in
the world are doing that. Modeo's, Highwire's and Qualcomm's
with their MediaFLO are now saying: you build out the
infrastructure and the network and then we will use that and we
are going to get the revenue and we are going to share the
revenue with you, but we are not going to own the network or the
spectrum. That is, in my opinion, until they realize that this
thing is really successful. That the attach rate is not 5% of
the 40 million subscribers that I have, but actually 20 out of
my 40 million subscribers, in which case, how do I squeeze costs
out of it? They will say, how did I get in bed with that
broadcaster to start with? and how do I get out of this? Now, it
is actually not that big a deal to insource the broadcast
network into the operator, so I think that we are going to see a
few phases. I think that in the first phase you are going to see
companies like Modeo, and Highwire, and potentially even others,
and maybe even MediaFlo, and then at some point when this market
starts heating up, the operators are going to start asking to
use a different piece of spectrum that they just acquired or
already owned for that purpose. If you look at Sprint, Sprint
has a 2.5 GHz spectrum that if you remember they used for
rooftops, a broadband wireless network they used back in early
2000. They have the spectrum and they are not using it right
now, at least in a way that is apparent. They can decide at some
point to use it.
6. Do you see Mobile WiMAX applications overlapping in the
Mobile DTV application space?
I think that mobile WiMAX would probably be more competitive
with the 3G network than it would be with Mobile TV, although
they do have some unique characteristics that kind of position
them in a sweet spot. What mobile WiMAX has is the ability to
all of a sudden deliver a whole lot of bandwidth and then
deliver nothing. Because that is the way you consume data. You
consume a whole lot all of a sudden, and then nothing. I will
always remember being amazed by having a hundred people in one
room sharing a WiFi link with lots of trouble and at the same
having a 128 Kbits per second phone that seem like you have all
128 Kbits to yourself simply because we are not all using the
bandwidth at the same time. So I think Mobile WiMAX is going to
address data transfer applications better than anything else.
And the 3G networks will address multiple users consuming
consistently a smaller amount at the same time. And broadcast TV
is going to be just broadcast a whole lot of bandwidth to
everyone at the same time on a consistent basis. The
technologies, when you go into the air interface specifications,
are planned and designed to do that. I think that if you need to
move a lot of data, WiMAX is going to be better than 3G. One of
the values that the group that I am with here in TI offers is
the answer to a major coexistence issue. When you are on your
cell phone and you get near a radio, you hear a little chirp.
That is when your cell phone is 3 feet away from your desk
phone. Now what happens when those different radios are not 3
feet away but 1/2 an inch away. Its the same problem multiplied
by several different orders of magnitude. So what happens then?
Well, you have to address coexistence in a much more complex and
big picture-type approach. And that's what we do here at TI. And
that is what a very strong advantage we have. If you try and
take a Bluetooth device from Broadcom and a DTV device from TI,
and a WiFi device from Marvell, and you slap them together in
the same phone, I hope you know how to solve the coexistence
issue. Whereas if you take them all from TI, we already solved
the coexistence on our side for you. You its funny, but you can
overwhelm an active receiver with just the power of the
transmitter next to it, even though they are on completely
different frequencies. You don't fall off an edge when you get
off frequency. There is still something being transmitted there.
Is it feasible, yes it is. It is definitely feasible to put all
those radios in one phone and have them work in harmony and
without interference with one another. Just so long as they are
all from TI.
7. Is there anything else you would like to tell our readers
as a final note?
What will make this take off? When you ask people "how many of
you are willing to pay $15 per month to get broadcast?", 8-10-20
channels including CNBC, CNN, ESPN, and maybe MTV, and so on.
You will get numbers that vary and between 5 and 11%. However,
if you get people to use this, and this is where the trials come
into play. In trials, what we found was that the number of
people that after the trials, after they got exposed to real
service, and we are talking about a matter of days, not months.
This percentage went up dramatically and all of a sudden we are
in the 25, 40, and even 60% of people said "oh, I am going to
pay $15-20 per month for this". And the thing is that we
typically find it very hard to visualize what this is going to
look like until we get really exposed to it. The best example I
like to use is that I bought a new car, the first Bluetooth
device that I bought was a car. Not only did it have a Bluetooth
device in it, but it had Satellite radio as well. The Satellite
radio was free, and it came with a free year of service. I am
sure I paid for this, but it was very well hidden in the car
invoice price. My perception is that I didn't pay for it and
even if I did, its there. I already have it. So, will I use it?
Well, of course I'll use it! Its there, why wouldn't I use it?
After a year I realized that probably 100% of my radio listening
is done to Satellite radio. It has 180-something channels, good
channels, channels that are focused on content that I want to
hear. And then I get the letter that says "your free
subscription has expired, would you care to renew it?" Guess
what, I couldn't even wait one day, I couldn't have the service
drop down for a day, because that was the only thing that I
listened to - that radio. Same thing. If you have got a phone
and the handset manufacturers have subsidized that phone. And by
the way, TI announced a few months ago with our Hollywood chip
that the overall incremental cost, not just our components, the
overall incremental cost of putting DVB-H in a phone is less
than $10 We announced that publicly. So if the handset
manufacturers subsidize that cost, and then, the very nice thing
about a broadcast network, there is no incremental cost in
supporting more subscribers. Its broadcast, once you have
transmitted, it doesn't matter how many people are receiving it.
If they give it to you for 3 months, maybe 6 maybe 12 months for
free, are you going to use it? Of course you are going to use
it. Every now and then, you are going to have 2 minutes. "Lets
just check the service" And you are going to like the service.
And now all of a sudden we are in the 25- 60% attach rate, and
not 5-11. If I am asking you up front, right now, its hard for
you to visualize it, you are starting to do the tradeoff
calculations, well $15 a month is, money, its $180 a year. Do I
really need that? But, if I give it to you for free for 3
months? that is it, you can't stop that service.
The only thing I have left that I would like to say is that the
weather today here in Dallas is better than in California. I get
three days like this in a year, so work with me here.
This interview ran in our June 1, 2006 newsletter issue.

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